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  Just got Home/Elder Dad just realized I'm Apostate

  by MrMoe in

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  well, just got back from a big talk with my parents.

  i finally let them in on the fact that i question the society.

  (dad is an elder and mother has been in it for 67 years since birth.

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  Pierced Angel

  Just be honest. You're not out to hurt anyone, you just want to know the truth and you have nothing to hide. You've done nothing wrong, so don't let them make you feel like you have.
  If they come to talk to you, just tell them you don't have time, that you're very busy and you'll have to get a hold of them when you have some free time (and just don't call back). You can probably do this along with pretending to not be home for a little while until you feel prepared enough to state clearly how you feel and what you want to say.

  I feel for you and I'm feeling sort of anxious inside because I know it's going to be hard when I'm in that situation. Just know that you're not alone and we all have to make our stand for truth. Funny how I used to think the same thing about the organization I belonged to.

  Good Luck (I mean that)

  Anne

  "When caught between two evils I generally pick the one I've never tried before." Mae West
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  How do you spell God?

  by GinnyTosken in

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  this summer i wanted to give my son a religious education.

  by "religious education" i mean that i wanted to educate him about various religions without indoctrinating him to believe any specific way.

  i want him to be knowledgable enough to be culturally literate and able to make an informed decision about his spiritual needs.. we have been reading together in genesis, but i also browsed at the library to find a book that might give us more detail about specific religious beliefs.

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  Pierced Angel

  Teejay,

  If you care about your daughter's self esteem, don't let her get too indoctrinated in the JW headset. It's hard enough for young girls these days, but with the second class citizenship of a JW girl, forget it.
  What are you doing to entice your wife to miss meetings? Whatever it is, keep it up!

  Anne

  "When caught between two evils I generally pick the one I've never tried before." Mae West
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  Just got Home/Elder Dad just realized I'm Apostate

  by MrMoe in

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  well, just got back from a big talk with my parents.

  i finally let them in on the fact that i question the society.

  (dad is an elder and mother has been in it for 67 years since birth.

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  Pierced Angel

  Good for you!
  I know it was hard, but it had to happen. I am waiting for that dreadful day myself and I'm in no hurry, but some days I feel like screaming from the rooftops. It's like a fire burning in your belly and you just can't keep it in any longer. You did the right thing and it will get easier as they accept that you are questioning things. Don't let them get you down. You're just doing what you have to do.

  Anne

  "When caught between two evils I generally pick the one I've never tried before." Mae West
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  Life after the Borg

  by Ranchette in

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  my husband and i were raised as witnesses in strong strict families.. our fathers were elders so we always had to set the example.because of this we started and ran our family the same way.so when we decided to leave were at the top in the congregation so to speak.i was very concerned for our children,actually i was scared to death for them.. i was looking for answers myself and didn't know if i was strong enough to be of much help to my children.we just took things slow and had lots of talks with the kids and walked them through it.i'm realizing that you can get them out just like you got them in in the first place.by your example and lots of communication.it's been 7 or 8 months since we have stepped foot in a kingdom hall and our kids are doing great!they are making new friends and had the best summer ever.the reason i'm telling this is to encourage any parents out there that are as scared as i was.

  you can do it.you will enjoy it because you will find that you are much closer to your children.it's amazing how quickly they opened up and told their real feelings without fear of our disaproval.. i just enrolled them both as regular kids in for the first time.no lecturing or preaching to the teachers about what they can and can't do.i'm so excited for them!they can experience all the fun i missed out on and just be kids.i almost fell over when they asked for birthdays and christmas.i gave them both birthday parties this summer and explained that we will have to go slow and figure it out as we go along.. i'm planning on letting them celebrate the holidays at school and i think we will celabrate the seasons picking any traditions we like from their holidays and creating some of our own.i'm just not realigous anymore so will probably never do things the way most do.. hope this gives hope and helps someone.. ranchette

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  Pierced Angel

  Thanks for sharing Ranchette,

  I just celebrated my kid's birthdays for the first time this year and it felt wonderful. It's been about 3 months since we seriously attended a meeting and the kids don't miss it, though my daughter misses two of her friends. I'm hoping with a new school year and girl scouts, and other activities that she'll find new ones. I'd love it if she could just play with her old friends, but that's just not to be.

  I'm sort of looking forward to having a costume party for Halloween, but we'll probably just do the same as you are, celebrate things that sound fun without too much stress about it. I just couldn't get into Christmas very much anyway,but we might do gingerbread houses, a small tree and stockings. I'm just glad they can enjoy the christmas lights, the music and all the fun that other kids get to ejoy without the guilt.

  Anne

  "When caught between two evils I generally pick the one I've never tried before." Mae West
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  San Francisco Anyone?

  by Tina in

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  pardon this off topic please.. i thought i could get some good input here.. i'm sending my son on a mini-break (vacation) for his birthday.. he's always wanted to see san francisco.

  (yes,im still a mother hen too :>) he has just a few days so what would you recommend as a 'must see'?

  what will really give the 'flavor' of sf?

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  Pierced Angel

  I love SF!

  It's sort of tacky, but fun if you love garlic, The Stinking Rose Restaurant.
  Fisherman's Wharf
  Chinatown
  day trip to Napa Valley (ride a double decker bus and drink wine all day and get to cross the Golden Gate Bridge)
  I only spent a couple days there myself so I'm probably not up on the less touristy spots.

  It was the only big city I wouldn't mind living in, very interesting and cosmopolitan.

  Anne

  "When caught between two evils I generally pick the one I've never tried before." Mae West
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  Who was the Strangest on the Doors?

  by individual in

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  yes, who was the strangest person you ever met in the field service, or what was the strangest experience?

  i once met a man who claimed that he had invented everything, including the hovermower, the hovercraft and the xylophone.

  he said he created the hovermower out of dustbin lids attached to an old lawnmower.

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  Francoise,

  I've heard similar stories about those that had gone to preach where the need was greater (certain parts of Kentucky in particular). The people are just as you describe them and we even had some in the hall put on a little skit showing what it was like witnessing to them.

  One couple played a "hillbilly" couple, man whittling wood and all, and another couple played themeselves as witnesses. I remember thinking how much easier it would be to talk about the Bible with such humble people.
  That's what the skit tried to convey, that it was a rollicking, great time and easy to make placements and feel good about preaching. They were trying to sell the idea of going there for two weeks to more of us in our hall.

  "When caught between two evils I generally pick the one I've never tried before." Mae West
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  Guy to cut off feet on the net!

  by ISP in

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  well why not!?

  they're his feet and all........ >> http://www.cutoffmyfeet.com/.

  isp

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  Pierced Angel

  Philo,

  You actually contemplated "cutting it off"? And you think a piercing is a bad idea? LOL

  Just kidding,

  Anne

  "When caught between two evils I generally pick the one I've never tried before." Mae West
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  Newbies! The Deception:An Example

  by zev in

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  yesterday, in this thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=9805&site=3 i spouted these words: happened to drag rays book, isocf from its hidding place in my car....at lunch time today.. i opened to any page, i needed to brighten my day like no other j-dub borg book, could ever do.. .

  i found a deception for the many newbies, trolls and plants that have been visiting us here in spiritual paradise, aka:simons board .

  i cant post it till tommorow, because i cant bring that book into the house while the j-dub wife is trolling around.

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  Pierced Angel

  What really bothers me is that these poor kids, having to suffer through their parent's divorce, have to pretend that their lives are happy and normal as witnesses. Imagine having to pretend that you don't mind being "different" at school and that you have "plenty" of other activities to make up for the ones you can't participate in at school. They go along with the pretense all the while knowing that it's a lie and that they can't say how they really feel. Perfect training if you want them to be victims of pedophiles or abusive spouses.

  "When caught between two evils I generally pick the one I've never tried before." Mae West
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  most HATED thing about the meetings ...

  by alliwannadoislive in

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  hey ya'll ... ain't tuesdays, thursdays and sundays even better nowadays ?.

  i was wondering what it is that you hated most about the meets ?.

  the one thing that used to really rile me was the pressure to control the children - the frowns and the disapproving looks when they were just behaving like normal kids .... the worst of it all for me was seeing any little person being taken outside and hearing the loud slaps even when the door was closed .... what is it that you least miss ?

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  I hated the boring, repetitive themes of the talks, though they could be interesting depending on the speaker and if he was good at illustrating points. The Watchtower study was the most boring thing and I could barely stand the way a tiny paragraph would be read and then we had to answer such a simplistic answer. I always thought that it was the perfect example of brainwashing. I mean, why bother to study it, we were going to go over every sentence several times on Sunday anyway.

  I really couldn't stand having to listen to the people that couldn't read well or that stuttered and stammered their way through their Bible reading. It drove me nuts! I know it was good practice for them, but get two or three bad speakers in one night and I headed for the back room to take some Tylenol.

  I hated driving to and from the hall in the winter, especially night meetings. It didn't seem safe some nights when the weather was bad and I hated scraping my windshield when it was so damn cold and windy and wearing nylons. So stupid.

  Thanks for starting this thread, I'm feeling so good about not having to go to meetings anymore. What a relief!

  "When caught between two evils I generally pick the one I've never tried before." Mae West
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  Happy positive lives after leaving

  by tergiversator in

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  in response to the commonly-repeated myth that all ex-witnesses are bitter angry people with nothing better to do then attack their former religion, i thought we should set the record straight.

  where are you in life right now?

  are you doing things that you always wanted to do, traveling to interesting places in your free time, making great new friends, generally enjoying life?

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  Pierced Angel

  I'm a successful freelance writer and web designer working my own hours and getting all kinds of perks I never thought possible. I write for one of the most famous tv chefs, get to interview celebrities and I get to travel to places like Paris and get paid to write about it.
  I homeschool my kids, have a happy marriage, good health and have all kinds of unique opportunities that I'm happily taking advantage of. I never have to see my boss or clients in person (unless I want to) and can sleep in and take a long lunch break, it's all my choice. I love it, I'm happier than I've ever been and instead of taking snow days, my kids take off on sunny days so we can enjoy every nice day we get.

  Yes, I'd say I'm much happier and more fulfilled than ever.